The Trump Rebellion

You forget that Trump switches sides as easily as he changes shirts. Look at his support for candidates record. Character does matter! We suffered 911 because we had a guy (Clinton) who set us up because he was using the presidency for his personal agenda. Trump has not record of patriotism but does have a record for publicity seeker. Remember what happened when Ross Perot split the Republican partY! That's how we got the 911 avoider guy! Don't be fooled by strong rhetoric from a man who is all about himself. We need a dedicated conservative, constitutionalist patriot, not a flim flam man!

Trump says lets get paid for our sacrifice and 1.5 trillion-SSS costs for 8 years in Iraq !!!

The Rumaila , the Kirkuk , and the West Qurna oilfields of Iraq are all up and running.

The royalties from that oil is worth TRILLIONS.

It it is light sweet crude and some of the easiest, most cost effective oil on the planet to produce.

So when Donald Trump says the US should take that oil he's not just whistlin' Dixie, people.

The American People should be demanding this Commie Obama be impeached and ran out of town along with his enablers in both parties who have allowed this adminsistration and the previous one,

to get away with gutting our economy by sending millions of our jobs to China, and refusing to annex oilfields in the middle east on behalf of the American People, who have sacrificed all for the people of Iraq.

However, regardless who has been awarded contracts to produce that oil, the ROYALTIES which is what we're really talking about, go to whoever owns the mineral rights. The ROYALTIES are worth TRILLIONS.

What Donald Trump means when he says,"To the victor go the spoils," is that the United States should ANNEX these oilfields, and receive the ROYALTIES from that oil to cover our 1.5 trillion SSS costs, not to say the sacrifice of those who fought to free and rehabilitate Iraq.

It's not complicated, folks. In fact it's so obvious we should have already done this.

I can see Trump as a good Sec of Treasury but not as the President as he has too much baggage. I do like the way he is standing up to Obama and setting standards on trade and OPEC. The free traders need to remember that it needs to be fair trade and China has kept is currency 40% down to get the dollars coming in.

If people can't see all the lies Obama made as a candidate and not living up to them IE going line by line over the budget to eliminate duplicate programs along with many others. Also not reducing the budget but expanding it 7X as much as the Republican Congress did in 2000-2006 and on the verge of bankrupting this country then we are in a world of hurt in the following four years after 2012.

He is the most secretive President about his background and spending millions to keep people from seeing his Birth certificate, not short form, trip to Pakistan, and college transcripts. Too many voters in 2008 were to gullible and not looking into his background with all the communist and radicals he surrounded himself with. I think he is a good person but a terrible President.

Trump says that he will get OPEC to lower its prices and also start drilling for our own oil within US resources and develop the western US's oil-shale fields for production.

Don't let the RINO's and the highly-self-interested-SSS, pro-China-free-traders, anti-US-pro-China-manufacturing-millions-of-US-jobs-losing, pro-Chinese-importing-retail-corporations, US-bankruptcy-destruction promoting crowd fool you.

They're making 100's of billions-trillions of SSS off of the anti-American US-China-unfair-free-trade deals, for just their small group of elitist SSS makers-horders.

As they destroy yours-our countries; economy, industrial-manufacturing base, losing millions of jobs to China, integrity, and worthiness !!!

Rush Limbaugh is starting in already saying that Trumps plan to balance out the USA's annual 300 billion SSS unfair-free-trade deficit is not Conservative because it is a move against free-trade.

Then right after his show Hannity parrots Limbaugh by saying that Trump wants to put a 25% tariff on Chinese goods being imported into the US if they don't stop devaluing their currency,

Which they use as a tactic to vastly-out-dominate the free-trading markets to the detrimenmt of US manufacturers that they compete in, and to the detrimenmt of US manufacturers and the US economy.

Levin is also misinforming about Trump because he didn't go on his show, because Levin and Savage have a verbal feud going from way back, Savage is the main Conservative radio host who has endorsed Trump.

Levin is using Trumps correct opinion about GB-2 being a miserably bad President to try and put him down.

Trump has just said at the latest Tea Party gathering that GB-2 was greatly lacking as President but that Obama is the worst US President ever !!!

So Trump is not trying to hide what he said about GB-2, he's not backing down on what is a true fact. !!!

Don't let the RINO's and the highly-self-interested-SSS, pro-China-free-traders, anti-US-pro-China-manufacturing-millions-of-US-jobs-losing, pro-Chinese-importing-retail-corporations, US-bankruptcy-destruction promoting crowd fool you, or even get away with putting Trump down for promoting the balancing of the US-China unfair-free-trade deficit, however he can get it done !!!

In 1985 the US-China trade deficit was only 600 million dollars.

The average yearly US-China-unfair-free-trade deficit from 2001 through 2011 has been 203 billion SSS,

from 2005-2011 the average yearly US-China-unfair-free-trade deficit is 251-billion-857-million SSS.

2011: 300-billion projected
2010: 273-billion--65-million
2008: 268-billion--39-million
2009: 226-billion-877-million
2007: 258-billion-506-million

SonOfTed2 Wrote:

Hire Trump as the President if you want the White House to have gold-plated everything.

USC Wrote:

He'll put the gold back in Fort Knox !!!

I am with USC. I would rather have Trump in the WH than a plane load of McCain's sitting on their backsides and making deals with the Kennedy's, Feingolds, Leibermans and the other "reach across the aisles" types. If nothing more, Trump will take of Obama and call a "spade a spade", (no pun intended). He needs to be undressed and shown for what he is. Trump will not care if he is called a racist for attacking the "anointed one." He knows the liar -in -chief is the worst since Carter and will have the facts to prove it. The rest of the namby pamby RHINOS will sit by and let him do it and try to get the nomination on some platform of being "reasonable". If that works, good for them and good for us. As long as we do not get another McCain or Dole as a candidate I will be happy.

This election is all about Obama and is a referendum on his policies and performance. If we run Snoopy we should win based on that criteria. Our ultimate candidate must only be alive and not have any scandal. If we lose, then say goodbye to the country. It will be controlled by more idiots he appoints and he can do more damage in a second term than we can even imagine.

I'm not sure what the hype behind Trump is. Granted you can say no one is perfect, no one is, but that doesn't mean you should run for, or would be good at being, president (or any other elected position). If you want to take the course of Trump having lots of experience managing people or projects, I would say his track record is less than stellar. Why not have former heads of Enron or Freddie/Fannie be offered up as candidates then? I've got no beef with Trump the developer, golf-course owner, reality personality, but none of his "accomplishments" make me see him as making a good president.

Other than state senator from Illinois what accomplisnments does BHO display?

Don't let the RINO's and the pro-China-free-traders-US-bankruptcy-destruction crowd fool you.

They're making 100's of billions-trillions of SSS off of the anti-American US-China-unfair-free-trade deals, for just their small group of elitist SSS makers-horders.

As they destroy yours-our countries; economy, industrial-manufacturing base, losing millions of jobs to China, integrity, and worthiness !!!

Rush Limbaugh is starting in already saying that Trumps plan to balance out the USA's 300 billion SSS unfair-free-trade deficit is not Conservative because it is a move against free-trade.

Then right after his show Hannity parrots Limbaugh by saying that Trump wants to put a 25% tariff on Chinese goods being imported into the US if they don't stop devaluing their currency,

Which they use as a tactic to vastly-out-dominate the free-trading markets to the detrimenmt of US manufacturers that they compete in, and to the detrimenmt of US manufacturers and the US economy.

Don't let them put him down for promoting the balancing of the US-China unfair-free-trade deficit.

In 1985 the US-China trade deficit was only 600 million dollars.

US-China Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:

2011: 300-billion projected
2010: 273-billion--65-million
2009: 226-billion-877-million

2009-2011: Total US-China Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:

800-billion-52-million-SSS

2008: 268-billion--39-million
2007: 258-billion-506-million
2006: 234-billion-101-million
2005: 202-billion--78-million
2004: 162-billion-254-million
2003: 124-billion--68-million
2002: 103-billion--64-million
2001: 083-billion--96-million

2001-2008: Total US-China Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:

1-trillion-435-billion-206-million-SSS

US-Japan Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:

2011: 75-billion projected
2010: 59-billion-802-million
2009: 44-billion-669-million

2009-2011 Total US-Japan Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:

179-billion-471-million-SSS

2008: 74-billion-120-million
2007: 84-billion-303-million
2006: 89-billion-721-million
2005: 83-billion-323-million
2004: 76-billion-236-million
2003: 66-billion--32-million
2002: 69-billion-979-million
2001: 69-billion--21-million

2001-2008 total US-Japan Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:
612-billion-735-million

US-Mexico Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:

2011: 75-billion projected
2010: 65-billion-332-million
2009: 47-billion-762-million,

2009-2011 Total US-Mexico Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:

188-billion-94-million-SSS

2008: 64-billion-721-million
2007: 74-billion-795-million
2006: 64-billion-531-million
2005: 49-billion-861-million
2004: 45-billion-170-million
2003: 40-billion-648-million
2002: 37-billion-145-million
2001: 30-billion--41-million

2001-2008 Total US-Mexico Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:

412-billion-312-million-SSS

US-Germany Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:

2011: 45-billion projected
2010: 34-billion-478-million
2009: 28-billion-191-million

2009-2011 US-Germany Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:

107-billion-669-million-SSS

2008: 42-billion-991-million
2007: 44-billion-744-million
2006: 47-billion-922-million
2005: 50-billion-567-million
2004: 45-billion-849-million
2003: 39-billion-280-million
2002: 35-billion-876-million
2001: 29-billion--81-million

2001-2008 Total US-Germany Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits:

336-billion-310-million

Thanks USC, we get it. Try some other screed now.

Donald Trump as the GOP candidate for President in 2012? Whose idea was that? First, it was his idea and generally speaking he is even less qualified to be President than is Barack Obama. Second, the notion of his candidacy was filler in the news until the NY Times trumpeted it. Does that sound familiar to any of you? Remember that Senator McCain was a second-tier candidate until the liberal press started pushing his nomination. How did that turn out? Guess what? The liberal media is doing it again, by urging us to nominate a second-best ( well, in Trump's case, probably third-best) candidate for President. Forget it!

SonOfTed2 Wrote:

Hire Trump as the President if you want the White House to have gold-plated everything.

USC Wrote:

He'll put the gold back in Fort Knox !!!

Is BHO a first rate candidate?

Donald Trump, I Believe, Has Spoken What Is On All Of Americas Mind. I Think We Are Going To Find B.H.O. Is Not Born In America And Possibly B.H.O. Has Some Kind Of Record In The Court System To Which B.H.O. Has Had Expunged Or Sealed? Honesty Is A Quality, We All, As Americans, Should Place As A Given Priority Quality In All Our Presidents If We Did This, We Would Find, B.H.O. IS Somehow Lacking In All Aspects As He Has Repeatedly Shown Us Time And Time Again With His Inability, Covert, And Ludicrous Remarks To Our Unanswered Questions. Questions That Aren't To Personal, Difficult, Or Demanding But Are A Necessity In Governing A Nation Such As Ours. If Someone Else Is Stepping Up To The Plate, So To Speak, In Answer To The Question Of Birth Certificate Clarity Among Other Questions, Rather Than B.H.O Personally, Questions Which Should Be Answered By Himself, Then There Is A Hidden Agenda Somewhere Along The Line!

USC writes: "He would be the kind of President that we need now !!!"
________________________________________________________

"The Donald" is just what we need.
A proven job creator and deal maker.
Go Donald !

He would be the kind of President that we need now !!!

right winged Wrote:

Liar, egoist, womanizer, tomcat, self-inflated, buffoon -- oh, you're right, a tea-party personality if there ever was one.

Reply:

And now he will leave one phase and go on to the next one,

He will save his-our country from the brink of destruction.

Trump-West

John Kasich Secretary of State

Ron Paul US Treasury Secretary

Michele Bachmann National Economic Council or SEC Director

Rand Paul Attorney General

Steve King DHS Director

BonnyB,

Colloidal Silver; 1-2 teaspoons 1-2 times a day, will do wonders to get rid of your cold and fight; infections, germs, bacteria, and viruses.

He's more genuine than any of the RINO's he'll be running against.

He's the man for the job, his past faults are all within reason for a successful business tycoon who has always been more and more patriotic as the times have required from all pro-American US citizens.

And he's changed alot over the years. If he does just what he's said that he'll do he can make up for alot of the damage caused by; Clinton, GB-2, and Obama !!!

SonOfTed2 Wrote:

Hire Trump as the President if you want the White House to have gold-plated everything.

USC Wrote:

He'll put the gold back in Fort Knox !!!

Mr. Giles, re: "Well, for me at least, it’s primarily because this current crop of GOP hopefuls gets me about as excited as watching Joy Behar doing an interpretive dance.." Have you heard of Congressman Allen West (LTC, USA ret.)? If not, look him up on You Tube to see/hear some of his speeches on the threat of Islam. The man is the real deal, an absolute patriot and truth-teller.

"It wasn't long ago that Trump was calling Bush the worst president ever."

HE WAS RIGHT THEN,

AND HE'S RIGHT NOW WHEN HE SAYS THAT OBAMA HAS SURPASSED HIS PREDECESSOR, HE'S EVEN WORSE THAN THE PROFLIGATE SPENDER HIDDEN-AGENDA-DRIVEN MIDDLE-EAST-OIL-WAR-MONGERER

GEORGE
"Islam is a religeon of peace" and "illegal-aliens only come to the USA to work because America is a nation of immigrants"
BUSH-2

Is wasn't long ago that Trump was calling Bush the worst president ever.

HE WAS RIGHT THEN AND HE'S RIGHT NOW WHEN HE SAYS THAT OBAMA HAS SURPASSED HIS PREDECESSOR, HE'S EVEN WORSE THAN GEORGE BUSH-2

About the USA's self destructing middle-east-oil-war-mongering disasterous mistakes which has cost the USA trillions of SSS with not only nothing to show for it.

A complete waste of; time, men, effort, trillions-SSS, causing bad foreign policy with untold blowback.

As we so stupidly-moronicly arm-SSS the; dog-cat-everything-that-moves, terrorizing-torturing-murdering-and-eating-it, uncivilized-barbaric-sadistic, corrupt-criminal Communist Chinese with a soon to be military equal to our own.

About the massive costs for this totally; unneeded, unwanted, unwarranted, unnecessary, unsustainable, and unfortunate; US-bankrupting-destroying, anti-American-interests, middle-east-oil-war-mongering military-foreign policy.

Wait, wait, wait,

Office of Management and Budget

Mitch Daniels Director

In January 2001, Daniels accepted President George W. Bush's invitation to serve as director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB).

He served as Director from January 2001 through June 2003. In this role he was also a member of the National Security Council and the Homeland Security Council.

During Daniels' 29-month tenure in the position, the projected federal budget surplus of S236 billion declined to a S400 billion deficit, because of an economic downturn and concurrent tax cuts initiated by the Bush administration.

Conservative columnist Ross Douthat

has noted that Daniels "carried water, as director of the Office of Management and Budget,

for some of the Bush administration’s more egregious budgets and made dubious public arguments in support of his boss’s agenda."

In 2002, Daniels was involved in a controversial attempt to discredit a report by Assistant to the President on Economic Policy Lawrence B. Lindsey

estimating the cost of Operation Iraqi Freedom

at between S100–S200 billion.

Daniels called this estimate "very, very high"

and stated that the total costs would be between S50–S60 Billion.

As of February 2010 the cost of the invasion and occupation of Iraq exceeded S700 billion,

and the Congressional Budget Office in August 2007 estimated that appropriations would eventually reach S1 trillion and likely much more, depending on the duration of military operations.

April-2011
Over 1.5 trillion SSS or more so far and counting,

In 2002 Office of Management and Budget Director Mitch Daniels called Assistant to the President on Economic Policy Lawrence B. Lindsey's 100-200 billion-SSS estimate for the cost of Operation Iraqi Freedom "very, very high",

and stated that the overall costs would be between S50–S60 billion.

April-2011
Over 1.5 trillion SSS or more so far and still counting !!!

Since the traitorous-treasonous Chinese-Mexican spy Bill Clinton raised the National Debt in 8 years by only

1-trillion-262-billion-669-million-326-thousand-747 dollars

you could say that GB-2 traitorously-treasonously massively raising the National Debt by almost 4 times that amount in his 8 years as POTUS

4 trillion-450-billion-546-million-687-thousand dollars

was extremely reckless, wildly excessive, and indefensible !!!

So yes, Obama is off the rails at 2-3 x that of GB-2's reckless profligate spending, anti-American foreign-free-trade, and overall mismanagement.

But GB-2 started this traitorous-treasonous economic-financial fiasco, nearly finished it off and the Obamanation is following in his footstebs at an even more incredibly reckless, wildly excessive, and indefensible traitorous-treasonous rate !!!

From 1-3-2001 to 9-30-2008,

GB-2 increased the national debt by

4 trillion-450-billion-546-million-687-thousand dollars

and Obama from

1-3-2009 to 9-30-2011 will have raised the national debt by:

4 trillion-850-billion-546-million-687-thousand dollars

National Debt

Obama
9-30-2011 -- 14,475,271,583,937
9-30-2010 -- 13,561,623,030,891
9-30-2009 -- 11,909,829,003,511
Obama

GB-2
9-30-2008 - 10,024,724,896,912
9-30-2007 - 9,007,653,372,262
9-30-2006 - 8,506,973,899,215
9-30-2005 - 7,932,709,661,723
9-30-2004 - 7,379,052,696,330
9-30-2003 - 6,783,231,062,743
9-30-2002 - 6,228,235,965,597
9-30-2001 - 5,807,463,412,200
GB-2

9-30-2000 5,674,178,209,886
Ending national debt under Clinton

10,024,724,896,912 GB-2 controlled ending national debt

5,674,178,209,886 Clinton controlled ending national debt
________________________

4,450,546,687,025 dollars

GB-2 raised the national debt in 8 years by

4 trillion-450-billion-546-million-687-thousand dollars

and Obama in 2 years 9 months will have raised the national debt by

4 trillion-850-billion-546-million-687-thousand dollars

So GB-2 was a complete disaster and Obama is an even greater disaster,

But it's not unfair to say that it's GB-2's fault that we're in this mess because we had to add trillions of SSS to our national debt to pay for the SSS that we needed to borrow to pay for these indefensible massive US-foreign-free-trade deficits:

GB-2:

Us-foreign-free-trade deficits:

2001 -394 billion
2002 -418 billion
2003 -489 billion
2004 -617 billion
2005 -701 billion
2006 -760 billion
2007 -702 billion
2008 -695 billion

GB-2's total US-foreign-free-trade deficit 2001-2008:

4-trillion-777-billion dollars

GB-2 raised the national debt in 8 years by

4 trillion-450-billion-546-million-687-thousand dollars

Why are those numbers so close in amount ???

National Debt

Bill Clinton
9-30-2000 - 5,674,178,209,886
9-30-1999 - 5,656,270,901,615
9-30-1998 - 5,526,193,008,897
9-30-1997 - 5,413,146,011,397
9-30-1996 - 5,224,810,939,135
9-29-1995 - 4,973,982,900,709
9-30-1994 - 4,692,749,910,013
9-30-1993 - 4,411,488,883,139
Bill Clinton

5,674,178,209,886 Clinton controlled ending national debt

4,411,488,883,139 GB-1 controlled ending national debt
_______________

1,262,669,326,747 dollars

Since the traitorous-treasonous Chinese-Mexican spy Bill Clinton raised the National Debt in 8 years by only

1-trillion-262-billion-669-million-326-thousand-747 dollars

you could say that GB-2 traitorously-treasonously massively raising the National Debt by almost 4 times that amount in his 8 years as POTUS

4 trillion-450-billion-546-million-687-thousand dollars

was extremely reckless, wildly excessive, and indefensible !!!

So yes, Obama is off the rails at 2-3 x that of GB-2's reckless profligate spending, anti-American foreign-free-trade, and overall mismanagement.

But GB-2 started this traitorous-treasonous economic-financial fiasco, nearly finished it off and the Obamanation is following in his footsteps at an even more incredibly reckless, wildly excessive, and indefensible traitorous-treasonous rate !!!

y Gelatinous cartoon slumlord Donald Trump is facing some tough questions about his previous political positions in his pretend campaign for president.

Just recently, he supported a government-run single-payer health care system like Canada's, as well as a 14.25% surtax on the rich to pay off the entire national debt. These stances don't square with the favored policy prescriptions of the Tea Party, whose supporters he addressed in a speech this weekend.

Gotta love a self-promoting, ego-obsessed clown.

An ego obsessed clown, self promoter is in office now. A different version who has some demonstrated accomplishments might be a welcome relief. Matching his personal failings with those of BHO might be a tabloid special series.

How sad. Trump advocates socialized medicine just like the messiah. Is wasn't long ago that Trump was calling Bush the worst president ever. Trump as donated to numerous democrats. Trump is for Trump, just like the messiah is for the messiah. And yet we have gullible republicans willing to vote for him. Sad indeed. Mr. Giles I always enjoy your humorous columns, but in my opinion you are way off the mark with this one.

"It wasn't long ago that Trump was calling Bush the worst president ever."

HE WAS RIGHT THEN,

AND HE'S RIGHT NOW WHEN HE SAYS THAT OBAMA HAS SURPASSED HIS PREDECESSOR,.

HE'S EVEN WORSE THAN THE PROFLIGATE SPENDER HIDDEN-AGENDA-DRIVEN MIDDLE-EAST-OIL-WAR-MONGERER

GEORGE
"Islam is a religeon of peace" and "illegal-aliens only come to the USA to work because America is a nation of immigrants"
BUSH-2

BonnieB,

Go get yourself some Colloidal Silver, take 2 teaspoons 3x a day and you'll feel better.

Then just take 1 teaspoon a day.

Go look it up, you can order it online from a discount vitamin website and have it in 1or 2 days.

Thanks USC My name is spelled BONNY :)

hiyas lady...I read that you're not feeling well?
did you catch a virus from your 'puter?

It shows how lost the Republican party is that it is reaching for a guy like Trump. Can't wait for 2012 -- you're so going to lose to Barak HUSSEIN Obama. Ha Ha Ha.

Lips Goldberg is rikker da notorious dikk likk.

No, we ALL lose, Goldielocks!

Trump's previous flirtations with presidential politics have left him with a political history that's full of single-payer health care advocacy and massive tax increases on the rich to pay off the national debt.

Other issues include his past support for prominent Democrats like Sen. Chuck Schumer (NY), to whom Trump's donated cash. That along with what appears to be some concern over Trump's birtherism and you've got a recipe for some blowback.

But don't worry, conservatives, Trump told TPM over the weekend: he's not the man he used to be.

Chocola's concerns stem from Trump's 2000 campaign tome, The America We Deserve. In it, Trump calls for a Canadian-style health care system and a one-time 14.25% tax on the wealthiest to pay down that era's 5.7 trillion national debt.

He would be the kind of President that we need now !!!

Liar, egoist, womanizer, tomcat, self-inflated, buffoon -- oh, you're right, a tea-party personality if there ever was one.

I don't know. But I do know that we need someone who isn't afraid to say what he thinks and then act. Not these politicians who talk both sides of the game just so they can get your vote. Speak plainly not in half truths and out and out lies. Trump talked straight and laid it out in one rally I say him in. He'll have to do more of the same to get elected. Watch and see. The other candidates don't float my boat. I like Huckabee but I saw him double take just like the rest of him on same sex marriages. He's a preacher, there are no grey lines in the bible I read. We need more people like Chris Christy. Politicians need to do whats right for hte country not whats right for their pocket books or war chests.

Mary they're trying to cover up Christies RINO secret:

RINO Gov. Christie Does it Again, Nominates a Muslim Activist Lawyer for NJ Superior Court

http://www.resistnet.com/group/virginiaresistance/forum/topics/rino-gov-christie-does-it

Chris Christie supports immigration "reform" (aka amnesty)

http://24ahead.com/chris-christie-supports-immigration-reform-aka-amnesty

When Chris Christie the N.J. U.S. Attorney he was an illegal-alien supporter !!!

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/007660.html

Here is more to add about RINO New Jersey Governor Chris Christie

http://www.resistnet.com/group/virginiaresistance/forum/topics/here-is-more-to-add-about-rino

If Gov. Christie supports Islamist judges and illegal immigration from Mexico, then no financial good he is doing matters. That's enough all by itself to DQ him in my eyes.

SonOfTed2 Wrote:

Hire Trump as the President if you want the White House to have gold-plated everything.

USC Wrote:

He'll put the gold back in Fort Knox !!!

BBBHH,

Was very thankful for your comment showing

Wong Kim Ark in the Texas school case.

The very author of the 14th amt's citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob Howard of Michigan, expressly said:

"This will not,

of course,

include persons born in the United States

who are foreigners,

aliens,

who belong to the families of ambassadors

or foreign ministers."

USC Wrote:

Illegal aliens scamming to have their kids born in the USA to scam us into paying their kids way from day 1 and entitlements benefits being transferred over to the parents too.

Illegal aliens are foreiners who have no right to start a homestead in the USA and then also try to collect Social Services benefits.

A Mexican illegal alien sneaking into and residing illegally in the USA is doing so as a Mexican citizen, so of course they owe their allegiance to the foreign sovereignty of Mexico.

Patriotic Chicagolander Wrote:

Wong Kim Ark is a favorite case cited by libbies to condone "anchor babies." This loophole needs to be closed.

Patriotic Chicagolander Wrote:

Agree with your post entirely. The case was decided under then current law and has no relevance to the judicial disgrace of "anchor babies" being given native born status.

Kepha Wrote:

The problem with the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment is that it states that "persons", not "citizens and green card holders" are entitled to equal protection under the law.

This means that a foreign businessman in the US for a two-week stint in order to check up on his investments or meet customers and suppliers can go to court if someone cheats him.

It is also one reason why lots of late 19th century British capital migrated to these shores rather than help build up the British Empire--a capable work force, a legal tradition based on Common Law, and willingness to protect an outsider's lawful claims were just too attractive.

The same sort of thing still attracts foreign capital.

Patriotic Chicagolander Wrote:

"I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of PARENTS (my note: plural)

not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a NATURAL BORN citizen…"

Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, "Father of the Fourteenth Amendment," March 9, 1866

USC Wrote:

Illegal aliens scamming to have their kids born in the USA to scam us into paying their kids way from day 1 and entitlements benefits being transferred over to the parents too.

Illegal aliens are foreiners who have no right to start a homestead in the USA and then also try to collect Social Services benefits.

A Mexican illegal alien sneaking into and residing illegally in the USA is doing so as a Mexican citizen, so of course they owe their allegiance to the foreign sovereignty of Mexico.