Happy Birth Certificate, Mr. President

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Did anyone see this. I am not sure if this is fake analysis, but if Obama was stupid enough to leave the layers on that birth certificate, oh my?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY&sns;=em

There's plenty of analysis on various sites and tubes. All of them that I have seen arrive at the same conclusion. Some add a little more detail, others less. End result is the same.

The Leftist Liberals will have to be content with whining about the "Vast Graphic Arts Conspiracy" now.

I remember when Arnold Schwarzenegger had just been elected governor. Some Republican leaders, such as Sen. Orrin Hatch, wanted to amed the Constitution so the Arnold could run for president. Schwarzenegger's family past would seem more controversial than Obama's -- his father was a Nazi policeman who had applied to join the Stormtroopers. But few Republicans had a problem with that.

Why should they? California (ok, maybe Illinois) would be the first place to get Nazi stormtroopers courtesy of BØ if he remains in office. Which could happen I suppose if he outlaws opposing parties. I'm writing that tongue-in-cheek.. but other violations of the Constitution doesn't seem to bother him much so the possibility exists but I still believe it is improbable.

At any rate, you've put up another strawman to knock down. Most Republicans (including those in CA) didn't want anything to do with Ahnold after he oozed under the democrats. After all, this is the same guy who wants to "signature stamp" all the ammo sold in the state.. creepy.

Racist!

Why didn't all of you demand that Dubya produce a long form birth certificate? And, when are YOU going to demand that the current crop of GOP wannabe Presidential candidates produce their long form birth certificates? Oh, I forget, only non-whites have to do that, silly me!

Fruitloop!

So insane people like you can then flip out!

From Trump and any other candidate, we need the following (as mentioned by some confused Con earlier):

(a) His full educational records, from schools attended through college/university.
(b) His full social security number background, including how he got that number
(c) His full passport and foreign travel information, including what countrys' passports he traveled under, and where he traveled
(d) His full financial details as to educational funding, assistance in purchasing his public and personal property

Why do we need those from Trump? Confused Cons say it is the right for every citizen to know. If we were to receive any of this info from Trump, then we reserve the right to deny any of it is legal. We assume it is a forgery.

There are the most important issues for Cons, and nobody get a pass. Confused Cons need to get on this ASAP.

Sounds OK to me. Anyone running for President should be properly vetted. Especially after the last goofball has been shown incapable of getting the bare minimum together.

We should ask that all living Presidents prove that they were eligible for POTUS. We need far more accountability. I have never seen GW's BC, so as a nation we need to spend considerable time looking into such matters. After we get his BC, we need his college records.

I think we need to see Trump's HS and college transcripts. Why hasn't he released them? What is he hiding? We also need to see his tax returns from the past 10 years.

Not that any of this matters to most people, but there are still plenty of Cons around who think that asking one particular POTUS is necessary, but asking any other is a waste of time.

This round makes the press look totally coopted. They never deigned to cover this, and they uncritically jumped on the boat immediately. The constitution ios not silly!

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I think that the REAL point made by BO's releasing his birth certificate is that he has been trying to keep that knowledge from the people of the United States. It goes further to question why, since he hid his birth certificate for seemingly no good reason, why has he hidden all his other information that the American people hav a right to know? (a) His full educational records, from schools attended in Hawaii and Indonesia, through Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard (b) His full social security number background, including how he got that number which was from Connecticut (c) His full passport and foreign travel information, including what countrys' passports he traveled under, and where he traveled (d) His full financial details as to educational funding, assistance in purchasing his Chicago mansion, and overseas support of his candidacy.
One veil has been lifted, but this President, who campaigned on a platform of "Transparency" is turning out to run the most opaque administration in the history of these United States. He should comply with requests for clarification, not only to satisfy the Freedom Of Information Act (FOMA), but also to fulfil his promises of "Transparency".

i think the real need for transparency is why you and other Townhallers don't have anything better to do with your time. For the last time, this is a dead issue. Cool it with your twisted conspiratorial theories and move on.

Why not demand that he strip naked on national television? It seems that no other presidential candidate in our history has had so many demands placed on revealing his background. It is all conspiracy, all the time, with these right wing nuts and demagogues.

The document released.....is not the the legally relevant one..
so what was really accomplished?

Well well well Banty you have finally seen the light. You are so right. IT'S THE CONSTITUTION AND BARRY DOESN'T FIT ARTICLE II SECTION 1 'NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, OR A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES AT THE TIME OF THIS cONSTITUTION SHALL BE ELIEGIBLE TO THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT."

Thank you so much, Banty there is hope for you yet.

I have just posted an article on the THP blog about the condition the United States is in.

This is NOT an all encompassing description, but enough to scare anyone who can think and those who will face reality.

We are in deep trouble and Barack Obama is NOT the solution.

http://thpatriots.blogspot.com/2011/04/retired-geek-obama-cannot-heal-planet.html

If Barack Obama's recently supplied birth certificate were to be proven to be false, would Eric Holder and his Injustice Department bother to prosecute the president for forgery?

Or would he just look the other way, since Obama is regarded as just one of the good old boys and one of his own people?

The Obama regime is definitely not racist, despite any racist actions in which it may indulge!

They do embody Liberalism: Mean, nasty, cruel, corrupt.

Wait, how can it be considered not racist if it indulges in racist actions?

Hey birther geniuses on Townhall....I see how concerned you are that an African and (not said outloud , black African) is our president. Be careful here. Remember we....er....YOU.....came out of Africa too; only it was just a few generations earlier. DNA analyses have indicated that there is sometime greater gene diversity among African tribes than between white and black 'Americans.' Further, the pigment genes are relatively minor in the scheme of heritable genes. All of which means, fellow black Africans on Townhall, that you should be very careful about your racist and xenophobic comments about the heritage of our President. You may be talking about some of YOUR relatives as well!

Need to play the race-bait card walker? Then I know you're in way over your head.

Townhall has been playing the race card for years. Why can't I?

Last Night - Lawrence O'Donnell Nailed "Crazy Birther Queen" Orly Taitz. It was absolutely Priceless!!

But I really find it hard to understand how a person "not" born in this country gets the credibility to question who is or is not born in this country, regardless of what that person is.

In this case however, I think the person in question should be DEPORTED back to where they came from if they can NOT accept the will of the American people when it comes to electing our leaders.

Perhaps Israel or Moldavia (Former Soviet USSR) will take her back. We have enough bigots-racists of our own without importing more.

We have enough bigots-racists of our own without importing more.

Everyone on this site...................

Agreed!

You know... If obama cared a whit about America or Americans, he would have cleared up this issue years ago, but the fact is, he loves the divisiveness. It gives him an opportunity to play the race card even when race is not an issue.

Hello. GWB was not questioned about his country of birth, nor was Richard Nixon, or Ronald Reagan, or GHWBush, or any other REBAGLIGOON presidents. Why should a BLACK president have to prove his country of birth when no WHITE president ever had to?

President Chester Alan Arthur faced challenges to his eligibility, and he was both white and Republican. Charles Evans Hughes, Barry Goldwater, Lowell Weicker, and John McCain never reached the presidency; but all were white and Republican. The only thing that set Obama apart is that he's the only nonwhite non-Republican in the bunch. Anything else to share?

To those who think Obama is an idiot, consider how masterfully he has played rope-a-dope: Pretending to be vulnerable on the issue until the birther frenzy reached a peak of public attention and he could use some sort of coup to bolster his creds. That he accomplished, to the great satisfaction and gloating of his entire team and using the occasion to tar his opponents as crackpots as well as racists.

Evil he is, yes. Stupid, no.

Whatever you might still suspect about Obama's origins, it's time to get over it and focus on the solid issues that are vital to bringing him down in 2012.

Amen and well said!!

Like gays, guns, and god.

Let's say that the curious, but superficially innocuous-looking document that Obama has released really is his unaltered long-form birth certificate. Why did he go to great trouble and expense to beat down litigation aimed at bringing it to light? Why did he risk a contempt citation, jail time, and a humiliating (perhaps permanent) interruption of his presidential campaign by defying a federal judge's order to produce it in 2008? Two plausible answers come to mind:

* He's hiding something. He couldn't very well string concertina wire around only those records that he finds bothersome. That would tell everyone what to focus on. So he put as many records off-limits as possible, hoping that no one would find the problem in time.

* His arrogance, his contempt for the public, and his disregard for the rule of law are pathological.

Either would render him unfit for office.

None of this matters, of course, to the left. Some leftists would accept a note written in crayon on a shopping bag as Obama's birth certificate. A disturbingly large percentage, including several I spoke to just today, simply don't care whether he's eligible. Presumably they wouldn't mind if Kim Jong-Il moved into the White House. Both factions agree, however, that any inquiry into his sealed records is a vile racist attack. Perhaps they recall racially motivated challenges to the eligibility of other black candidates, e.g., Chester A. Arthur, Charles Evans Hughes, Barry Goldwater, Lowell Weicker, and John McCain. Or perhaps they're just insane.

Right!

It's pretty obvious Obama has something (Daddy unknown?) to hide.

Oops, Daddy is listed on the BC...................it is sad when people project their own SHORT-comings on others. Whose YOUR daddy?

Scroll to the right ... and notice that this (Obama era) Birth Certificate has a visible Seal.

Where is the Seal on Obama's Birth Certificate?


http://omgq.com/13.jpg

It's a fake, a bad fake, an obvious fake created with Quartz PDFContext, a PDF writer for the Apple Macintosh. It's plausible enough to convince true believers, but not plausible enough to convince many others. He has the resources of the federal government at his disposal, and he could've published a believable forgery. He's just muddying the waters in hope of achieving further political advantage -- and laughing his @ss off at believers and skeptics alike.

Peculiar. Even the 2 dollar copies I've had to get a couple of times have had the embossed stamp. It's what makes it the real deal. Otherwise it's just paper.

But... I don't know if Hawaii customarily stamps an "original". Nor for that matter do I know if my original on record has a stamp. I've never seen it.

BTW I had to get my copies to get drivers licenses in a couple different states. Running for President of the United States requires less? I don't see what the big hairy deal is about if there is a legit cert. Why go through 2 years plus of legal expenses and clumsy fakes?

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Ms. Saunders, Obama's birth certificate is nothing of the kind; it is a certificate of live birth, which is a much-less rigorous document than a conventional long-form birth certificate. In any case, the BC controversy is a red herring. Obama is in office illegitimately. His father was a Kenyan at the time of his birth, therefore Obama is not a natural born citizen under article II, section I of the constitution. That's fact, not fiction - and all of the spin in the world won't change that fact, Alleged conservatives who say that focusing on this issue is wrong, or politically unastute, are apparently willing to sell out the constitution for reasons of political correctness. Congratulations - you are enabling an illegitimate president.

She and many, many others are willing to sell out the Constitution because they are afraid they will look foolish in the public media. Personally, I think the law is above our feelings.

I have feelings about other laws that I don't like, such as "hate crimes", but that's why I want the laws changed. I don't get to ridicule those upholding the law.

But of course when you meet the legal requirements as Obama did with legal proof, and then others continue to question you and bring up wild conspiracy theories then the person who is the conspiracy theorist like ignoramus birthers are deserves to be ridiculed and ridiculed loudly.

http://conservativebyte.com/2011/04/new-obama-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery/


A look at the BC.

Finally, President Obama released supposedly his, “the” long form, birth certificate; and lectured Americans about what was truly important in America. “We do not have time for this kind of silliness,”… “We’ve got better stuff to do… I’ve got better stuff to do… We’ve got big problems to solve, and I’m confident we can solve them, but we’re going to have to focus on them, not on this.” He then promptly boarded Air Force One to solve one of those vital problems — by flying to Chicago for another appearance on Oprah’s show and then flying off again to make speeches at fundraisers.

I understand why so many are concerned; one person making arbitrary decision as to the legitimacy of candidates. However, the qualification criteria is not arbitrary, they are precise and clear.

NO candidate should be allowed on any ballot unless he/she meets the qualification criteria and proves it; no assumptions should be made.

The only thing needed is an official birth certificate…sometimes official birth certificates are not issued for many reasons and are very difficult to get. My parents were both born in Alabama before 1930. In the hill country (ca. 1920) there were no hospitals and very few doctors. At the time the County Seat Court House was where live births were recorded, but only if family or doctor reported them. That Court House burned down several times and many records were lost.

I was very young, but remember my Dad saying it took over a year and getting various forms from the State of Alabama, completing those forms and getting them notarized (having to resubmit them multiple times); but in 1952 the State of Alabama did gave both my mother and father not “Birth Certificates”, but official “Certificates of Live Birth”.

I didn’t have a birth certificate until I requested one from the State of Alabama (1967). My Dad said I would probably have to go through the same process as he did to get mine. However, Doctor Underwood did file the proper paper work and the State of Alabama sent me an official copy at the cost of 5 Dollars.

My parents’ “Birth Certificates” and my “Birth Certificate”; have one official thing in common. The “Seal of Alabama” watermarked on them. I have examined Obama’s Birth Certificate and do not find any official watermarks at all. I do not believe that the state of Hawaii or any State would produce an official “State Document” without a watermark of some kind. Official Stamps, paper, etc. can be stolen and signatures can be forged; just ask anyone that worked for the “old” Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS).

So, does this answer and where does this leave the question of Obama’s actual birth? I have a couple of questions: Some of the dates stamped on it are very current…WHY? The sequence numbers are out of sync with the numbers issued during that time frame…WHY? In ca. 1961, why would they not most likely use Negro, rather than African as race. What about his other documents, such as school records, and other records that we all leave in our wake, etc. and why was his Social Security Number (042-68-4424), if indeed it is his number; actually applied for (1977) from the State of Connecticut, when Obama lived in Hawaii?

Why did Election Commissions in every State accept his paper work without question? Especially since; very little, was and is known about him.

So why did he fight so hard and stonewall releasing such documentation? It doesn’t take a Guinness to figure out that Obama wasn’t hiding anything that is on the present long form birth certificate. The evidence indicates that what he is hiding is that his long form birth certificate may not be genuine.

President Reagan said it best, "Trust, but verify”; he was correct and did so.

An honest man has nothing to fear from “Trust, but Verify”: like DNA evidence, it helps to convict the guilty and protect the innocent.

Well said however there are none so blind as those who will not see. tinsldr2 is one of them, he refuses to see that
the crux of the Obama mystery IS that he is not a legit Natural Born Citizen, it's impossible since he's acknowledged his presumed father was Kenyan and never a citizen. To insist that this is not an important issue is pure willful blindness (exept that of the trolls, they are just brain dead and paid off useful idiots), however those who are intelligent
and still refuse to look at the evidence under their noses is inexcuseable. Unless you don't believe the Constitution as originally written and can be amended at the whim of someone like Barry Soetoro. If you believe that then you are party to the destruction of this Republic. The Constitution trumps (no pun intended) anything as political as an election, and if we demand it be followed the poltical will be solved as well. I don't believe in surrendering, especially to surrending to criminals like Barry who has a plethora of other impeachable offenses on his head. And I don't believe in surrendering to the repulican RINO surrender monkeys.

An excellent article by Ms Saunders. As Glenn Beck said over a year ago, anyone that is a birther should be paid by Obama because they are merely HELPING him get re-elected.

If anyone out there is still a Birther I urge them to just donate to Obama's campaign and show your true colors.

I can not stand Obama and will do everything I can to get him out of office. If you publicly persist in your birther mania you are doing more to get him into office then anything ten other people can do to get him out.

He "trumped" you with that release and now is the time to stop whining like the kid who was picked last at the ball game and wants to take his ball and go home, man up, and fight (figuratively) to vote him out in 2012.

Birther is in the eye of the beholder. It is just an evasive tactic.

If I may be allowed to continue quoting from my own post (which follows in MrLonandB's train of thought):

http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/2010/07/journolist-issue-no-one-is-bringing-up.html

Why are there some Americans who doubt the narrative that Barack Hussein Obama was not born in Hawaii, or elsewhere in the United States? After all, noone ever doubted that George W Bush was born in the United States or that John Kerry or Al Gore or Bill Clinton or Bob Dole or Ross Perot were born in the United States.

So, isn't this proof that only Obama's color is the only reason for these nutjobs, these racists, these birthers, to claim, preposterously, that Obama was born abroad — or that he is a Muslim, or a socialist, or indeed a communist?

But then, again, neither George W Bush nor John Kerry nor Al Gore nor Bill Clinton nor Bob Dole nor Ross Perot had a foreigner for a father (or for a mother) nor did they spend numerous years of their childhoods abroad — many years, if not most, of which were in a Muslim country.

Should Allen West, or JC Watts, or Thomas Sowell run for president, noone would ask where they were born or demand to see their their (original) birth certificate as proof. But perhaps that is because those black men are Republicans (proving thereby that conservatives are biased)?

Hardly. That is because those African-Americans (emphasis on the "Americans" part) are known to have grown up in the United States and are known to have had parents who were not foreigners — certainly not at the time of their birth (i.e., if either of the parents was born abroad, he or she had become an American citizen by the time of his or her famous offspring's birth). And indeed, it is the same for left-leaning blacks (as it is for whites, left-leaning of otherwise).

Remember that Jesse Jackson tried running for president twice (in 1984 and 1988), and although he did not manage to become the Democratic Party's candidate, noone suggested that he was born abroad, and that for the simple reason that the Greenville, SC, native did not have a foreigner for a father (or for a mother) nor did he spend numerous years abroad.

Similarly, it is unlikely that Al Sharpton (who grew up in Brooklyn) would ever be asked for his birth certificate. Neither Baptist minister would be likely accused of being a Muslim, although both might very well be described as socialists, or as communists — and that, ***for reasons that, in the final analysis, are pretty valid***…

To As***: Does growing up abroad make an American suspect for the rest of his or her life? Apparently so. This is useful to know. Those of us who spent all or part of our childhoods living abroad because our parents were in the US military, or were Christian missionaries, or were in the Foreign (diplomatic) Service, or were teaching abroad, or were transferred abroad by their private sector business job, or were writers or artists working abroad, or were scientists studying gorillas or icebergs or ancient ruins abroad, or were Americans working abroad in the tourism industry-----are all possible terrorists, bound on the destruction of the United States, and must never be allowed anywhere near public office. We grew up at home in other cultures and speaking other languages, comfortable in the larger world, and this makes us spooky to the residents of Crotch, Alabama.

Lily, one of my grandsons was born in a British Commonwealth country when his parents were in the Navy.
The base didn't have a hospital so he was born in a hospital in the nearby city, he wasn't born on U S territory he was off base. Therefore, when he was born the parents were told he would have dual citizenship and when he was 18 he could choose British or American citizenship. Because of 9/11 he had to declare at age 16 in order to get his drivers permit. My Grandson can never ever run for President because he wasn't born on American soil and had dual citizenship, even though both parents were Natural Born Citizens.
Barry had only ONE American born parent, so he even further denied the White House. You either support the Constitution or you don't, which is it? You can't have it both ways. People tried to trap McCain because he was born outside the country but he was born in Panama which at the time was American territory til that
weasel Jimmy the peanut brain gave it away..and now his Chinese commie pals have control of what we built with out blood, sweat, tears and treasure with many Ameicans dying from yellow fever.

As I argue in a dispassionate, an exhaustive, and an impartial post on all matters related to the birth certificate controversy (click below to see how the JournOlist issue fits in), seen from all perspectives, that I wrote some months ago — little (if anything) that has had to be changed since Obama's recent disclosure in the past couple of days — there is an essential problem that has been overlooked all along…

Indeed, when you think about it, one has to wonder whether the real problem was (and is) not with those who believed that Obama was NOT (or MIGHT not have been) born in the United States but with those (including Debra Saunders!) who took it for granted that Obama WAS born in the U.S.… (Are we sure that the latter do not deserve to be called kooks as much as, if not more than, the former?!)

http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/2010/07/journolist-issue-no-one-is-bringing-up.html

Most damning of all, when you pause to think of it, the castigators' proof — if it can be called that — all lies in one fact … and that fact is that Obama is a man, a person whose word should never be doubted, who is capable of no lying, no evil, no chicanery. The person who ridicules the "Birther" theory as inane has no more proof [or didn't have any until this Wednesday] than the born-in-Hawaii skeptic of where Obama was actually born: his only argument — beyond the contention that the certificate of live birth and the newspaper clipping are incontrovertible proof that are not, can not be, fakes, bureaucratic mistakes, or misinterpretations — is the indisputable "truth" that Obama is someone whose honesty should not — should never — be questioned.

When you think about it, it might be less worrying that some do not believe Obama was born in the United States (because of the circumstances linked to his entire childhood, much of it abroad) than that some are utterly convinced he must be born in the United States (because the Chicago pol is allegedly a sainted figure who can do, who can say no evil, who is incapable of lying or of falsifying documents).

Are you from Wingnutistan or Nutwingistan?

Just curious.

LOL , good one Robert